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Mr.Comatose·12/18/2015 in King's Point

Discuss about the Series Finale of "Now" and "Forever"

Can you believe that Haven is now all done and over with? With a 2 parter series finale of Now and Forever, our heroes struggled to stop Croatoan and ending the troubles forever. I really feel like Haven really did tie up most of it's loose ends with the series finale and most of the characters got the endings that was needed for them. Or predicted for them.

Duke had an interesting plot in the finale where Nathan was proven right that Duke was still in there and had some redemption left for his character. After all, Duke is our favorite pirate. Glad I was wrong about you Duke. With Dwight, he got his deceased daughter back but wasn't sure what it meant. Obviously, Croatoan has a plan for Dwight and did anyone find themselves doubting Dwight at some point? Now Croatoan's plan was a bit thin with the whole, let's show everyone I was right and get them back. I think the writers just wanted him to create pure chaos, which he did. Serious props to William Shanter for bringing intensity to that character.

Now we have to talk Nathan and Audrey and to be honest, the second half of the season began to feel like it began to center around them in a way. It was their destiny to save Haven and became like the heroes of the town. I like how they developed over the seasons and how much devotion they put towards the cause. Team pancakes all the way man. I am somewhat ok with how the writers chose their ending for the both of them. Or at least I think I am.

What did you think of the series finale? What do you think should have been done? Did you like a certian character's ending? Do you want to see more of Haven in another form? What other cameos did you want to see? Discuss below.

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A Fandom user·12/21/2015

First off, I love Haven and love that they had an ending that actually ended. I loved the finale but I did have a few issues with it. 1. Did Duke really have to die? Yes, Croatoan was taking the troubles from him, but they were still able to get to the ending they did without the need for Duke to die, a reference to this would be raiders of the lost ark, Indiana jones didn't do anything to resolve the outcome. With that being said though, the way Duke went out was unreal, the writers did an amazing job. The final initial grab from Nathan was intense, the final words to Duke from Nathan and Audrey, were beautiful. It was one of the most amazing deaths I have ever seen on TV and it made me (former Marine and cop) cry like a fricken baby. When they brought him back in the next episode as a ghost, it was weird. I did like that he did the flip off like Duke would, but I thought it was odd that Dwight’s daughter was brought back as long as he believed she was real. Why couldn’t they have done that for Duke? The obvious answer is that it wasn’t in the script haha. I recall that they truly didn’t know that the show was cancelled at the time they did the finale, so my guess is that there was another plot with Dwight’s daughter and that maybe Duke would be some Obie Wan guy. 2. I like William Shatner and I understand the small funny part between Vince and him to end it all. But I thought that should have been written differently, because Croatoan caused so many deaths you know? But then I remembered that Vince isn’t really human anymore, he’s a computer, so I let it slide. 3. I at first didn’t like how Paige (Audrey) appeared back, because I was thinking that she was an actual person that just looked like Audrey. Especially with a kid, as though Nathan has to deal with a replacement. But going back to the William and Vince scene, knowing that it really was Audrey and their son James made it good. I would’ve have let her just be her and give Nathan and her their son. Overall, I love that they ended it without a cliffhanger and gave closure (I’m still mad about Alphas haha). It would be awesome if someone would continue the minisodes so as to keep it alive or at least make some sort of Haven Herald newspaper giving the fans ways of seeing how their characters are doing. It would be cool to read the stories and read between the lines as to what the article is really talking about.

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Malusmoskau·1/17/2016

I love the show, but I hate Nathan. It really agitated me that he got a happy ending, while Duke died. Duke did more for that damn town than anyone, save Audrey, while Nathan was a selfish jerk from stem to stern. I felt like Duke deserved so much more, and instead, he got a slow, choking death. While Audrey yelled about loving him, and Nathan yelling that he thought Duke was the bravest man ever, he could have given him a quicker, painless death with a snap of the neck. Instead, he choked him? I hated him even more at that point. As for the rest of ths finale, I loved the stuff with Dwight, feeling like he was the character Nathan should have been the entire series. Duke and Dwight, the real heroes of Haven.

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Mje20011·1/22/2016

I kinda liked Nathan but I found the end kinda off. They could've gotten away with bringing Duke back but I guess there had to be some sort of sacrifice to pump up the drama. Two things that I think the writers did really well was the cutoff for Duke's destiny plot and Croatoan. From practically season 1 Duke was being torn between his old life of being a pirate, ending the troubles and his family curse. All the motifs of identity, destiny and fighting fate just tieing together was great writing. I also think that William Shanter did a great job in the role of Croatoan even though he was introduced so late. It's interesting to think that the shows final antagonist was a father who lost his family through aether and attempting to bring everything back to normal by what he thinks is right (sending Nathan away with copy Audrey and turning Duke into a terminatoresque murderer to harvest troubles).

But why did they kill both the Teagues?!

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A Fandom user·1/29/2016

I am totally disappointed of how the series ends. Duke's character was wasted for nothing.

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Malusmoskau·2/2/2016

I agree. Duke was wasted. As for the Teagues, I always interpreted Vince as still alive, just part of the barn. I was ok with Shatner, but I wasn't floored or anything. He worked best when he was a behind the scenes kind of guy. I'm just glad Dwight got a good ending.

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